Dave Verellen talked with The Hard Times in the new episode of their podcast.
Listen to the interview here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hard-times-podcast/id1450779291?i=1000540739239&fbclid=IwAR1EyXN9eQS7-3cvTzTC6fwNfWcMRQqvn-BFZCXZqi_gZzkno-pmQB8xOHI